Bespoke Painting - Harmandir Sahib

[ipledgeblue]

  On 7/17/2022 at 1:18 AM, jkvlondon said:

They are all gursikh piare  there is no difference they are brothers and sisters together  the divisions are illusionary created by our dushman to keep us from being ik joot as a khalsa family. Don't play the mindgames they would like us to play , rise above and recognise your blood

yes, the divisions are definitely created by our dushman. Once we lost our raaj, the divisions were created in the form of jathas and committees. and came out to play and confuse the panth!

[MisterrSingh]

  On 7/17/2022 at 2:32 AM, ipledgeblue said:

yes, the divisions are definitely created by our dushman. Once we lost our raaj, the divisions were created in the form of jathas and committees. and came out to play and confuse the panth!

Jathas and sects severely weakened us. A billion+ strong religion like Islam can afford to mess around with its Shia-Sunni nonsense. For us, even anti-DG issues are clearly manufactured to create distance and differences. The founders of sects care more for their own glory and remembrance than for the unification and prosperity of the Sikh faith as a unit. There was never any need for sects in Sikhi.

[dallysingh101]

  On 7/17/2022 at 11:51 AM, MisterrSingh said:

Jathas and sects severely weakened us. A billion+ strong religion like Islam can afford to mess around with its Shia-Sunni nonsense. For us, even anti-DG issues are clearly manufactured to create distance and differences. The founders of sects care more for their own glory and remembrance than for the unification and prosperity of the Sikh faith as a unit. There was never any need for sects in Sikhi.

The Singh Sabha thing hasn't helped either. Okay, it was a reaction and compromise to colonialism, it should face that now and correct things. At least some of the sampardayas have unbroken lineages going back to pre-annexation. 

[ipledgeblue]

  On 7/17/2022 at 11:51 AM, MisterrSingh said:

Jathas and sects severely weakened us. A billion+ strong religion like Islam can afford to mess around with its Shia-Sunni nonsense. For us, even anti-DG issues are clearly manufactured to create distance and differences. The founders of sects care more for their own glory and remembrance than for the unification and prosperity of the Sikh faith as a unit. There was never any need for sects in Sikhi.

one of the clearest anti Dasam Granth corruptions is the way Kabyo Baach Benti Chaupai is cut and read by jathas and SGPC, and the gurdwaras they occupy such as Harimandir Sahib. It's a case of hiding anti dasam actions in clear sight where panth will not notice. At least sampradaiye don't buy into this, but this regular anti-dasam corruption affects a huge proportion of mainstream sikhs especially their nitnem and even amrit sanchar ceremonies!

 

As for sects, there were always non-khalsa sects in sikh panth, and they can make any kind of sect or dera maryada they want. The problem is when sects started getting created and made their own amrit dharis and khalsa maryadas. Also Nirmala sects are allowed their own dera maryadas because their function is education and gyaan as opposed to fighting battles. But this goes too far when SGPC and jathas start making their own maryadas... Actually, even Naamdharis are a sect which splits the Khalsa and needs to somehow be reintegrated back into khalsa panth.

[Akalidilsidaksingh]

  On 7/15/2022 at 3:06 PM, ssinghuk said:

It will do us better if we take a more positive attitude rather than picking negatives.

Its the first time I've seen something like this. I think its great! It shows unity between different groups of the Sikh panth. Many Mahapurkhs have said that squabbling on a jatha level is frowned upon "up there" and this work looks to fix this.

Yes, there are many other great GurSikhs Mahapurkh that have been left out. However, the GurSikhs included in the work are dependent on the sharda of the individual/family who has commissioned the work.

If possible, can we name all of the GurSikhs included in the work?

The obvious two are Sant Jarnail Singh Jee Bindrawale and Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh.

I think Bhai Rama Singh is in the panj pyarey behind Maharaj.

Expand  

bhai surat singh jee pooran 

bhai harbhajan singh jee sagoo

bhai rama singh jee 

jathedar raghbir singh

bau mal singh jee

bhai preetam singh jee chani 

bhai jeevan singh jee 

giani amolak singh jee

master niranjan singh jee

bhai joginder singh talwara 

babar khalsa jatha

damdami taksal singhs 

jathedar gurdev singh kaonke

bhai fauja singh

bhai kulwant singh kaki pind bhai amolak singh 

gurjant singh budh singh wala

mehnga singh babbar sukhdev singh babar bhai avtar singh jee

kulwant singh jee nagoke

[Singh375]

  On 7/15/2022 at 3:06 PM, ssinghuk said:

If possible, can we name all of the GurSikhs included in the work?

Please comment names/numbers sangat ji and daas will edit captions below

1 - Bibi Joginder Kaur Ji (Singhni of Bhai Jeevan Singh Ji), 2 - Bhai Amolak Singh Ji, 3, 4 - Bhai Shingara Singh Ji, 5, 6 - Bhai Preetam Singh Ji Chani, 7, 8 - Bibi Bhupinder Kaur Ji, 9 - Dr Preetam Singh Ji, 10 - Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji, 11 - Bhai Jeevan Singh Ji, 12 - Master Niranjan Singh Ji, 13 - (Singh from UK?), 14 - Giani Amolak Singh Ji, 15 - Bhai Joginder Singh Ji Talwara

16 - Bhai Surat Singh Ji Pooran, 17 - Bhai Harbhajan Singh Ji Sagoo, 18 - Bhai Rama Singh Ji, 19 - Bhai Mal Singh Ji, 20 - Jathedar Raghbir Singh Ji, 21 - Bhai Kulwant Singh Ji (kaki pind), 22 

23 - Bhai Avtar Singh Ji Kurala, 24 - Bhai Fauja Singh Ji, 25 - Sant Jarnail Singh Ji, 26 - Bhai Kulwant Singh Nagoke, 27 - Bhai Mehnga Singh Ji Babbar, 28 - Bhai Anokh Singh Ji Babbar, 29 - Bhai Sukhdev Singh Ji Babbar, 30 - Bhai Gujrant Singh Ji (budh singh wala), 31 - Jathedar Gurdev Singh Ji Kaonke

[Singh375]

  On 7/17/2022 at 11:50 PM, Akalidilsidaksingh said:

…

Awesome knowledge Singh ji, could you edit your post to add numbers?

[Kaurr]

  On 7/18/2022 at 12:45 AM, Singh375 said:

Please comment names/numbers sangat ji and daas will edit captions below

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 - Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15

16, 17 - Bhai Harbhajan Singh Ji Sagoo, 18 - Bhai Rama Singh Ji, 19, 20, 21, 22

23, 24 - Bhai Fauja Singh Ji, 25 - Sant Jarnail Singh Ji, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 - Jathedar Gurdev Singh Ji Kaonke

Expand  

23 - Bhai Avtar Singh Ji (Kurala) (1978 Shaheed with Bhai Fauja singh Ji)

Not 100% sure about 26, but could be Jathedar Amrik Singh Ji

27 - Bhai Mehnga Singh Ji Babbar

29 - Bhai Sukhdev Singh Ji Babbar

[Akalidilsidaksingh]

  On 7/18/2022 at 2:54 AM, Kaurr said:

Not 100% sure about 26, but could be Jathedar Amrik Singh Ji

kulwant singh nagoke

[ipledgeblue]

  On 7/13/2022 at 7:16 AM, Singh375 said:

A closer look…

Expand  

Tell me more about the Singh who plays tabla in a different way. I feel like he would have enjoyed playing a different drum instrument but was limited to the thinking of those times.

Also the front of harmoniums look different these days, anybody know why they changed in modern times?

I also see that Bhai Randhir Singh holds harmonium in a different way, diagonally. I just feel he would have enjoyed Tanti Saaj instruments especially due to the way he holds the harmonium, but again was limited due to the sangat and music teachers available due to the colonial times! Oh how things would have been different and we would have so many raag keertan rehnsbai! I also like the aad chand he wears in some photos, I am unsure if this picture is trying to show the aad chand.

Dhan Guru Arjan Dev ji, we will follow your hukam and bring tanti saaj back to the panth!